The round pan below is a propane pan with electronic ignition. This is a 36" aluminum pan with a 2" lip all around
The two pans below are stainless steel and are propane fueled with 415,000 BTU electronic ignitions each.
The fire pit below was build by Mike Phillips ( a customer). First he ran a propane line to the fire pit area and then blocked his fire pit into shape. We use a FPPK (fire pit propane kit)
in an aluminum pan 24" x 24" with a double 18" double stainless steel ring.The glass that was used was a Gray base
and Gray Reflective
on top to add sparkle.
Below you can see the placement of the thermo coupler and safety pilot light used for propane.
Below on the right side the controls were installed in the bricks.
The fire pit below belongs to Mike DeVito in Northern California. When I saw his idea I was excited to help him create something new and wonderful. He took a very old mining cart in his front yard and we helped him convert it to a propane burning fire pit! Turned out pretty cool! Next he is getting a fire pit cover made to cover it from debris and who else knows what.
I think this is one really nice idea!
It is all supplied by this 20 lb propane tank
Here is the mining cart with the base plate installed with the burners
Here you see the controls, air mixer and thermo coupler and pilot light lines under the base plate
You can use a larger (3/4", 1" lava) as a base under our 1/4" crushed lava
as this will save you a few dollars.
Now we pour on the crushed lava
to keep the glass from sinking into the larger lava.
Splash a few colors
Have your spouse light it in case something should go wrong! (Just Kidding)
Again here are the first pictures we saw of the mining cart. Great Idea!
Mike, you did a great job!
Step 2, cover the old brick!
Finish the face and floor, very nice!
On the left side you can see the gas connection which will soon be covered as well. On the right side the control cover will be covered as well. This propane pan burner
was fitted with a remote control, radio frequency.
Now that you're finished you're ready for FIRE! Have your spouse lite it in the event they didn't follow the instructions! (just kidding again)!
The fireplace below is a propane
fireplace with a Black base
and Clear Diamonds
on top. We built a pan to hold the glass with out the legs and covered/ protected the burner controls inside of the pan. The controls are on the right side and they are shielded and buried under the glass. The customer was going to finish the front of the steel pan after he installed it.
Our products do not require any certification from the AGA, CSA or UL as it is considered a stand-alone product by these agencies. We are told that we would need a certification if sand and or lava rock would need certification. The agencies are franchise operations and they are privately owned and they are not a government agency. These agencies are hired for mass production testing and AGA, CSA and or UL do not certify custom one of a kind projects. Custom burners need no certification as this only applies to production equipment. Just so you can understand that a certification costs about $15,000.00 and certification was developed for production/ mass production to assure quality. Any parts that would normally need AGA or UL do in fact have these approvals. Parts with function need and should have some sort of approval. The pan burners we sell that do have UL, CSA and or any other listings are produced by other companies. The custom pan burners that we produce are just that, custom. Therefore do not require UL, CSA and or any other agency listings as these are custom. The parts that we use to build these pans are UL, CSA listed as they should be. We would never use any “Third World Country” or any unlisted, untested parts to build any products and or parts to endanger any product performance what so ever.
The fireplace below was installed with a dual battery operated 100,000 BTU propane electronic ignition
system. Each capable of 100,000 BTU's of fire. The first pictures show what we had to work with and how it progressed.
If this was in your house you would say NASTY!
Burning wood and logs is just nasty and dirty! True story!
Above you can see the soot that come out of the fireplace and and leaves your house smelling so carbon monoxide fresh! YUCK!
Add a bit of lime stone.
A few pieces of copper.
Below you can see the sand bed and the ignition box we built.
Below are the two vent we installed for the air mixers inside of the ignition systems.
and here we are finished. Now isn't that much better litter feller?
Modern times call for modern measures! I guess that's why we are Moderustic!
The burner below is one of our FPPK's (fire pit propane kit)
. With this FPPK we set it up for Black Magic
! This was table tested for the pictures. Hopefully the customer will send us pictures after and during installation. We first sent these pictures for the customers approval. Here you go! The pan below belongs to Scott Spector and he finally installed the fire pit in his back yard, WOW, one really nice backyard!
As you can see around the lower edges it was leaking and yes we did fix this.
The fire pit below was built by Scott Spector in Florida. He started with an FPPK 30 which includes a 30" base plate and a double 24" stainless steel ring. Here we go from the beginning:
The propane line was run/ installed under the pavers.
The colors that were used are
1/2" Clear base,
Black Magic in the center,
Cobalt Blue Topper,
Cobalt Blue Light Topper
and our FPPK 30". That is our 30" propane burner. You can see the actual burner above burning before shipment and installation.
We don't have any pictures of the fire pit burning at Scott's but he did tel us that when he fired it up again he would try to send us a few pictures. Thanks Scott.
The fire table below was built by Christina "Stina" in the San Francisco area. With a little ambition, imagination and our help, she now has one very nice fire table.
Here is where it started. She made a template of the pan and where the mounting tabs would be located. Then we built the aluminum pan and propane burner for Stina to install.
Below is how the teak table started. We just brought it into the future.
Below the pan was installed with Galaxy Green base glass.
Below you can see the top installed and what a difference.
Below is her wonderfully finished project, Great job Stina!
The fire pit below was purchased locally and then we converted it to burn propane without soot! The colors used were:
Here is what is looked like when he started. These manufactures have no imagination!
This only cost about $100.00, complete!
The propane burner conversion below was performed by Richard King of South Carolina.
Richard has one very cool Super Bowl party room! We assisted him in converting a propane fire pit one very nice clean burning fire pit. We will explain as we move along.
Richard: You did a beautiful job on your gazebo!
Here is the fire pit turned up so you can see that we installed one of our FPPK (fire pit propane kit) The tank was under the deck.
Richard may of had a few flex lines that were a bit too long.
It's supposed to look simple when it's finished.
The controls were adapted to his and over his old controls.
Above is on low and I might add no black soot or smoke! You would think the manufactures of these tables would of figured it out by now?
Below is the standard ring but we installed thermo coupler and safety pilot kit.
Below is what were sent to convert. Small flames and no air mixer what so ever. Just a lot of soot and black smoke, seen it before?
Below, not a lot of flame is there? The reason is once they turn it up for you, the soot starts to show. So they tell you it can't be turned up.
Now we step in, air mixed calibrated to the ring and valve system and pilot light and thermo coupler in place.
and turbo high and still with a clean burn!
and below is the 2009 Super Bowl Party! Thanks Richard!
Yes, we can convert anything!
The wine barrel below was build by one of our newer dealers in Texas. Matt's Custom Welding. Contact us for information about Matt's wonderful work. We are going to be much more of Matt's work and look around his showroom in the pictures below. Many more projects to come.
There was a steel bowl installed using our propane system to burn our glass. They used Bronze base glass in the fire pit.
Below you will see how simple it is to convert/ install a propane into your table:
This is our FPPK box with controls and air mixer calibrated to the burner we are using
A better view
The burner on the top side with the thermo coupler, pilot light and battery operated ignitor exposed
Pout the filler/ lava/ glass? and drink beer! Put a fork in it, You'r done!
Propane Burner Issues
I have seen this scenario all too often. The supplier that you have purchased from only cared about making the sale of the glass. They did not ask what you were doing. How you were doing it. What you were working on, etc. etc. etc. They did not ask if you had propane or natural gas or if you had natural gas close by to use opposed to propane. You are now finding out that there is no customer support after the sale. We are the only manufacturer building one propane burner at a time to suit your needs. We care from beginning to end and more importantly after the fact! We offer customer support FOREVER!
Let me tell you how we feel about these other companies selling products they know nothing about:
You purchased a Ford and now you are going to the Cadillac dealer for advice and parts on how to fix the problems. That is not how it works. We need you to put pressure on the company that sold you the product that does not perform as you thought it should. We will and or can resolve your issues, but you need to make sure these companies stop selling products they know nothing about.
Have you contacted the company that you purchased from?
Have you received any advice from this company on how to resolve the issue?
Are they even concerned about your problems?
Did you disclose to this company what you were working on?
Did this company ask for details about your project?
Have you asked if you can return all of the parts and products because of product failure?
Does this company even have any information online about their success on propane burners?
Did you receive any customer support?
Does the company you purchased from even have a physical address where you can visit?
We do genuinely feel bad for the customer being taken advantage of by companies such as these, selling parts and supplies, which they know nothing about.
Please keep us posted on your developments so we may continue to remedy your situation. We are proud of our creations, inventions, customer support, product lines as we do all of this for you, the customer!
This would be step one. Then we would step in and fix your issues.
Ed Jaunzemis President, Moderustic Inc
The next few pictures are from New York by Jai Crandall for Tom Morgan. We can hep transform an eye soar to a place of enjoyment. Just watch!
November 10, 2009
Hello Ed, my name is Jai Crandall and I live in central NY. I have a good friend (Tom Morgan) that has a patio that he generally uses wood to throw some heat for his quests when he entertains. Unfortunately, as I'm sure you know, the smoke can really get to you after a while. This is a very high end home and he entertains for some very important people. He would like to eliminate the wood a replace them with some propane inserts. It doesn't have to look like a fireplace, but most importantly, it needs to throw some intense heat.
Pictures 1,2 and 3 are the front views of the fire pits and as you will notice they are not square ( each picture is labeled with the dimensions), they don't need to stay like they are, so if you want to make them square you can. Just go by the front measurement. Hopefully you can design something that will fit there needs.
I am sure that they are going to want electric ignition, and you can try to place the control valves in the front. Also, with the good New York weather, you want want to have covers for each unit.
Thank You so much for your time and I look forward to working with you to complete this project.
July 3, 2010
Now here are the finished pictures on the property. Very nice!
Hey Ed, Here are some pictures of the burners that I installed. They look great and they are very happy with their performance. Also, I believe that I may have a few more people interested in something similar to what I did for Tom Morgan. Have a great forth weekend and I will talk to you soon.
That's what I said when I first saw the project, YUK!!!! I tried to figure out what to do????
Jai came up with the Stainless Steel hollow base design and we went to work.
This is a happy ending!
Our propane burners were set to 100,000 btu's each for maximum heat. The glass that we used was Bronze Rust Copper.
The fireplace below belongs to Marcia and here is what we did to update her fireplace:
First here is what your fireplace may looks like now, nasty!
We reconfigure the pilot, burner, base plate, venturi and get it to burn properly.
Nice flames, then we continue.
If you look below we are showing you proper pilot light placement.
Paint is and you're done!
The glass that we used was a Starfire base, Bronze Rust Copper and Bronze Reflective on top.
If your fireplace does not work this easy or look this simple, then we didn't do it!
Let us help you make your fireplace work right and look good.
Here is the answer some of you think you know. (You don't!) These are Air Mixers, Venturis Carburetors.
These like a carburetor on any engine act as the air fuel mixture governor. Have you ever been behind an older car that smells funny? Wrong air mixture! Bad mechanic! The air mixers have to be calibrated not only to the valving but the burner as well. We have been building propane burners for several years now and we have never had an issue with any configuration that we have built, ever. It's the same as porting an engine for proper air flow. If you just STICK one of these on your burner then you may be giving us a call soon enough.
Here are a few pictures of the 1/2" and 3/4" air mixers, (40,000 to 400,000 btu mixers).
If you attach it and create back pressure, you will have a fire or an explosion, guaranteed. We are not trying to frighten you but to make you aware. We believe in safety first and we don't build systems without thermo couples and or pilot light systems, ever!
As you may have of seen on our "How Not To Do It Page" they still screw up no matter how hard they try. We are here only to help!
The fireplace below is an outdoor fireplace fueled with propane. The remote control (battery operated) is located below by an access panel. We will explain as we move on. This fireplace and Propane Burner was installed in Florida. (See Our General Propane Sheet)
Here is the fireplace the flat plate was installed onto.
Propane Burner before the glass.
On the left side notice the access panel for the battery operated remote control.
The entire cover is removed for access to the actual remote control.
This is a pilot light and thermo couple system and capable of and up to 100,000 btu's. The entire plate will be covered with glass when it is finished.
The next fire pit below has one of our FPPK's installed. We didn't supply the star burner bur we did get it to burn correctly with a Ford Blue base glass. Then it was Topped with Clear and Blue Diamonds. We will explain as we move on.
Below you can see the gas shut off on the left and our FPPK box on the lower right.
Below you now have fire! It was a bit windy but you get the idea.
The next fire pit below was built and installed by Kevin Smith.
This is a propane fire pit and we sent the stainless steel burners and Copreci Valve. The burners are and were calibrated to the burner to insure a clean burn. There are so many companies out there who sell propane pans, burners, air mixers along with the glass and when you have any issues, they just seem to run away and leave you holding the bag. We will explain as we move forward.
Above you see the cinder block hollowed out. You don't need a pan, the block is the pan! Too many times we see this situation and the customer is told they need a pan, why? Ohhhh, because the dealer needs your money more than you do!
Below you see the stainless steel burners on a bed of crushed pea gravel
Below you can see the Copreci and air mixer mounted to a bracket on the end of the pit. Remember, the air mixer and Copreci have to be calibrated to the burner or it won't work! There is no magic bullet, it's pure and simple knowledge. Propane Burners have to be dealt with great care.
The glass that was installed was Ford Blue base glass.
Done, simple and nice! (See Our General Propane Sheet)
This next fire pit was built by Tim and Sarah, they simply built this with stacker stones and a bit of ingenuity. The used a crushed lava base with Black Base glass topped with Black Reflective base glass. Then they used a Light Amber Topping to create the Fleur De Lis. This was done with a propane valve that we supplied. They used a wood burning fire bowl for the pit. The tank was accessible from the back of the fire pit.
Add the base crushed lava. Note we do not use the 3/4" size? Way to large for the glass as it will fall through. You can use the larger lava and then over it with the crushed lava to save some cash!
Below if you notice the Pilot Light and Thermo Couple just inside of the ring? This is a must if using propane, for safety.
And you're done!
Steve Hinojos (S.B. County Sheriff) built two fire pits using propane. One of which was a Wine Barrel Fire Pit and the other a traditional (oopsies on this one!). We will explain as we move on.
We supplied the know how and all of the parts to make his Wine Barrel Fire Pit a success! great job Steve!
We also supplied Steve with the all of the propane parts to make his fire table work properly as well. It's when we got his pictures that we noticed the ROCKS! You can't burn ROCKS, they EXPLODE! This you can see in teh Famous "How Not To Do It" page. Initially he had no problems but once they took on moisture, sure enough he was back for some safe and sound glass!
All in all, great job Steve!
If you are building a fire pit or fire table and did not plan for and where your controls will be located, we have a solution! We can build a Flip Top Box to conceal your controls for propane or natural gas. Here are 8 pictures for your possible project. We can modify these is dozens of ways to fit your fire pit project.
This is just the Copreci Valve and Air Mixer installed in the box. We can build a box to hold the FPPK with auto start as well.
(See Our General Propane Sheet)
This next fireplace was installed in Mexico by Roy Quick. It turned out amazing. The base glass that was used is:
1/4" Clear White
and Scarlett Toppers
accented with Gold on top of it all.
The propane pan has a removable front skirt/ cover to conceal the controls.
The next propane fire table was built by Rick Kasner in Arizona, great job! We inspired and supported Rick through out the complete project on "How To Do It Yourself"! DIY!!!
The glass that was installed is:
1/2" Frosted base glass
3/8" Gray base glass
Iridizing Amber Brown Topper
We will explain as we move forward.
Base steel stud frame
Propane valve installed
Back side of valving and air mixer.
Durock is now applied.
Durock is finished
Table top is installed
Colors installed in propane pan burner
Drink beer, you are done!
The next fireplace installation was by Vito Sanfilippo. He installed a propane pan and topped it with:
Here we go:
YUK, no paint...
Paint makes a world of difference.
Pan and glass installed
and if Vito wants a big fire, Vito gets a big fire!
and his wife said, no I want a small fire, guess who won?
pan is a stainless steel pan we manufactures for our customer in Hawaii. The system that was install was a ventless burner
to burn propane
with our glass. We will explain as we go forward.
On the front of the pan we we bend an open back hemmed stainless steel curtain to conceal the controls but it is still easy access.
This is the ODS (Oxygen Depletion Sensor) it speaks for its self.
Here we are burning propane with a Starfire Base glass
, please note what a clean burn! We do it right.
All of our pans are built for each application and fireplace.
The next fire pit was a customer conversion with our FPPK propane attachments and burner.
What ever project you are converting or working on, we monitor your project all the way through. Provided you send pictures.
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